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RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ruddy - Oct. 05, 2019

how was UA in attack mode? any suggestion combo?


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - g2_ - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 03, 2019  8:43 PM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 03, 2019  7:59 PM)g2_ Wrote: I dont understand, why use weak teeth with a dash driver, to make 4 strong click, when you can use Valkyrie and the 2 bulcky teeth with a dash driver would make every click crazy strong.

That’s not how physics work buddy the spring can only compress so much so Valkyrie is fully compressing the spring on a dash driver it wants to free the compression ASAP so when it gets the chance to it does so Valkyrie already fully compressed is somewhat weaker plus teeth wear out too quick
Valkyrie already fully compressed is somewhat weaker, how does that make sense? The teeth feel crazy strong.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  5:34 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 03, 2019  8:43 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: That’s not how physics work buddy the spring can only compress so much so Valkyrie is fully compressing the spring on a dash driver it wants to free the compression ASAP so when it gets the chance to it does so Valkyrie already fully compressed is somewhat weaker plus teeth wear out too quick
Valkyrie already fully compressed is somewhat weaker, how does that make sense? The teeth feel crazy strong.
when  it get's hit


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - g2_ - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  5:42 PM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  5:34 PM)g2_ Wrote: Valkyrie already fully compressed is somewhat weaker, how does that make sense? The teeth feel crazy strong.
when  it get's hit
When it gets hit so what? The clicks are still super strong.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  8:10 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  5:42 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: when  it get's hit
When it gets hit so what? The clicks are still super strong.

there too much pressure on the spring so it skips teeth


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - g2_ - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  8:41 PM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  8:10 PM)g2_ Wrote: When it gets hit so what? The clicks are still super strong.

there too much pressure on the spring so it skips teeth
If it's tight, why would it skip teeth?


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  9:01 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  8:41 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: there too much pressure on the spring so it skips teeth
If it's tight, why would it skip teeth?

because too much pressure


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - g2_ - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  10:59 PM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  9:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: If it's tight, why would it skip teeth?

because too much pressure
No, it skips teeth when the teeth are weak and the spring is weak. Not when it's strong and it feels almost stuck.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - CitrusNinja3 - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  11:01 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  10:59 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: because too much pressure
No, it skips teeth when the teeth are weak and the spring is weak. Not when it's strong and it feels almost stuck.

Dash Drivers work better on Ashura and Achilles than on Valkyrie because the multiple teeth cause more resistance than the two big teeth. Also, one or two big hits can pretty much guarantee that a Valkyrie combo will Burst, but the Ashura Chip and Achilles Chip are able to take more big hits consistently.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 05, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  11:32 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  11:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: No, it skips teeth when the teeth are weak and the spring is weak. Not when it's strong and it feels almost stuck.

Dash Drivers work better on Ashura and Achilles than on Valkyrie because the multiple teeth cause more resistance than the two big teeth. Also, one or two big hits can pretty much guarantee that a Valkyrie combo will Burst, but the Ashura Chip and Achilles Chip are able to take more big hits consistently.

ty cirtus for helping me


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - g2_ - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 05, 2019  11:32 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  11:01 PM)g2_ Wrote: No, it skips teeth when the teeth are weak and the spring is weak. Not when it's strong and it feels almost stuck.

Dash Drivers work better on Ashura and Achilles than on Valkyrie because the multiple teeth cause more resistance than the two big teeth. Also, one or two big hits can pretty much guarantee that a Valkyrie combo will Burst, but the Ashura Chip and Achilles Chip are able to take more big hits consistently.
2 almost unburstable teeth vs 7 good teeth, I still don't understand why would Valkyrie be weaker with a dash driver? When I rotate him, it feels super tight, unlike Ashura who feels very loose.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  12:01 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 05, 2019  11:32 PM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Dash Drivers work better on Ashura and Achilles than on Valkyrie because the multiple teeth cause more resistance than the two big teeth. Also, one or two big hits can pretty much guarantee that a Valkyrie combo will Burst, but the Ashura Chip and Achilles Chip are able to take more big hits consistently.
2 almost unburstable teeth vs 7 good teeth, I still don't understand why would Valkyrie be weaker with a dash driver? When I rotate him, it feels super tight, unlike Ashura who feels very loose.
5 hit's and valkyrie burst it's not how it feels it how it actually does one big hit and valkyrie losses one click which is halfway achilles losses at most 2 teeth which is less than half another big hit and valkyrie bursts achilles is now one it's strong tooth and only loses a click now valkyrie is bursted and achilles is only a little pass half


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - g2_ - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  1:05 AM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  12:01 AM)g2_ Wrote: 2 almost unburstable teeth vs 7 good teeth, I still don't understand why would Valkyrie be weaker with a dash driver? When I rotate him, it feels super tight, unlike Ashura who feels very loose.
5 hit's and valkyrie burst it's not how it feels it how it actually does one big hit and valkyrie losses one click which is halfway achilles losses at most 2 teeth which is less than half another big hit and valkyrie bursts achilles is now one it's strong tooth and only loses a click now valkyrie is bursted and achilles is only a little pass half

But why? Why is this happening?


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  1:08 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  1:05 AM)Ravinchen Wrote: 5 hit's and valkyrie burst it's not how it feels it how it actually does one big hit and valkyrie losses one click which is halfway achilles losses at most 2 teeth which is less than half another big hit and valkyrie bursts achilles is now one it's strong tooth and only loses a click now valkyrie is bursted and achilles is only a little pass half

But why? Why is this happening?

because of how the long the teeth are valkyrie are 2 big teeth which each take up half so one hit and even if it was only barely enough the disengage the lock which is 1/5 of the whole bey it goes to 1/2 of all whole bey where as achilles one big hit stays on 1/5


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ardmore Bladers - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  1:22 AM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  1:08 AM)g2_ Wrote: But why? Why is this happening?

because of how the long the teeth are valkyrie are 2 big teeth which each take up half so one hit and even if it was only barely enough the disengage the lock which is 1/5 of the whole bey it goes to 1/2 of all whole bey where as achilles one big hit stays on 1/5

With smaller teeth though, Drivers are more likely to skip teeth when getting hit, like when you the Phoenix Core with Judgment Joker, it can skip every tooth and instantly burst.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:27 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  1:22 AM)Ravinchen Wrote: because of how the long the teeth are valkyrie are 2 big teeth which each take up half so one hit and even if it was only barely enough the disengage the lock which is 1/5 of the whole bey it goes to 1/2 of all whole bey where as achilles one big hit stays on 1/5

With smaller teeth though, Drivers are more likely to skip teeth when getting hit, like when you the Phoenix Core with Judgment Joker, it can skip every tooth and instantly burst.
dash drivers


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - BuilderROB - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:27 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  1:22 AM)Ravinchen Wrote: because of how the long the teeth are valkyrie are 2 big teeth which each take up half so one hit and even if it was only barely enough the disengage the lock which is 1/5 of the whole bey it goes to 1/2 of all whole bey where as achilles one big hit stays on 1/5

With smaller teeth though, Drivers are more likely to skip teeth when getting hit, like when you the Phoenix Core with Judgment Joker, it can skip every tooth and instantly burst.

So then valkyrie or something like Ashura or Achilles?


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Raptor547 - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:29 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  2:27 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: With smaller teeth though, Drivers are more likely to skip teeth when getting hit, like when you the Phoenix Core with Judgment Joker, it can skip every tooth and instantly burst.

So then valkyrie or something like Ashura or Achilles?
From what I know, Ashura is good on dash drivers because of the amount of teeth.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - BuilderROB - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:31 PM)Raptor547 Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  2:29 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: So then valkyrie or something like Ashura or Achilles?
From what I know, Ashura is good on dash drivers because of the amount of teeth.

Yes, but I have also heard that Achilles is a better version of Ashura


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Raptor547 - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:34 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  2:31 PM)Raptor547 Wrote: From what I know, Ashura is good on dash drivers because of the amount of teeth.

Yes, but I have also heard that Achilles is a better version of Ashura
Oh, I didn't know that.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:35 PM)Raptor547 Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  2:34 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Yes, but I have also heard that Achilles is a better version of Ashura
Oh, I didn't know that.

it actually is  it has 10 teeth to ashura 7 and it teeth are larger


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Raptor547 - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:38 PM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  2:35 PM)Raptor547 Wrote: Oh, I didn't know that.

it actually is  it has 10 teeth to ashura 7 and it teeth are larger
Woah, slow down. 10 clicks?


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ravinchen - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:40 PM)Raptor547 Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  2:38 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: it actually is  it has 10 teeth to ashura 7 and it teeth are larger
Woah, slow down. 10 clicks?

10 teeth no clicks 5 clicks


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Raptor547 - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:59 PM)Ravinchen Wrote:
(Oct. 06, 2019  2:40 PM)Raptor547 Wrote: Woah, slow down. 10 clicks?

10 teeth no clicks 5 clicks
Oh that’s what you mean.


RE: Union Achilles Testing Thread - Ash_Ketchum_007 - Oct. 06, 2019

(Oct. 06, 2019  2:59 PM)Ravinchen Wrote: 10 teeth no clicks 5 clicks

I thought it was 8? 4 on each side, giving 4 clicks?