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Attempt at an upper attacker - ChozenBlader - Sep. 16, 2008
AR: Upper Dragoon
WD: 10 Heavy
SG: Neo Right HM Core
BB: SG Metal Flat 2
The 10 Heavy and HMC help to centre weight, which increases RPM. More RPM increases the effectiveness of upper attack.
That is the theory behind this blade.
Feedback please
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - May The Pirate - Sep. 16, 2008
Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
(If I'm thinking right here)Change the 10 heavy to 10-wide, and if you have any Grip Attacker Base's, Use one of them, they're a lot better in my personal opinion for upper, since you need to be quite low to the ground for it.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - G - Sep. 16, 2008
Same CC combo that's been around for a while with a different BB. Use Storm Grip BB for a lower upper attacker.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - Bey Brad - Sep. 16, 2008
(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - May The Pirate - Sep. 16, 2008
(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
That's my theory out the window XD I always thought that the lighter it was, the faster it is, but it can't sustain it very well because of the lack of weight.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - Bey Brad - Sep. 16, 2008
(Sep. 16, 2008 9:00 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
That's my theory out the window XD I always thought that the lighter it was, the faster it is, but it can't sustain it very well because of the lack of weight.
The lighter it is, the faster it moves. Not spinning.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - May The Pirate - Sep. 16, 2008
(Sep. 16, 2008 9:00 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 9:00 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
That's my theory out the window XD I always thought that the lighter it was, the faster it is, but it can't sustain it very well because of the lack of weight.
The lighter it is, the faster it moves. Not spinning.
Now I know XD, thanks
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - Train - Sep. 16, 2008
(Sep. 16, 2008 9:00 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
That's my theory out the window XD I always thought that the lighter it was, the faster it is, but it can't sustain it very well because of the lack of weight.
You're right it is faster, but that's lateral movement not actual RPM. The heavier and rounder something is the faster it will be spinning. If it has a sharp tip (metal is best because of the limited friction) it will maintain the RPM even longer.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - May The Pirate - Sep. 16, 2008
(Sep. 16, 2008 9:02 PM)Train Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 9:00 PM)Gekiryu Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
That's my theory out the window XD I always thought that the lighter it was, the faster it is, but it can't sustain it very well because of the lack of weight.
You're right it is faster, but that's lateral movement not actual RPM. The heavier and rounder something is the faster it will be spinning. If it has a sharp tip (metal is best because of the limited friction) it will maintain the RPM even longer.
That explains why fairly heavy endurance types spin a long time then, theyre generally rounded.
Anyway back to upper attack.
A good base for it is something flat, fast and quite low, Otherwise it defeats the purpose of "upper" attack.
I've always had a problem with a dragoon storm base, so I recommend Grip attacker's as always
(if you have it that is)
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - ChozenBlader - Sep. 17, 2008
Thanks for the comments everyone. I'll try to get a Grip Attacker for the base then
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - G - Sep. 17, 2008
Even though it's compact, the AR isn't so when it hits it'll tend to lose balance more compared to Storm Grip BB or SG Metal Flat 2. Plus you're losing the weight of the HMC so the hits will be weaker.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - Train - Sep. 17, 2008
I thought the entire purpose of upper attack was to have and maintain a high spin rate. You get faster lateral speed or "movement" with grip BB's and of course Metal Flat, but the beyblade won't last nearly as long.
This isn't a normal sort of upper attacker though it's like a fusion of smash and upper attack. It isn't relying on it's spin rate it's relying on the lateral speed and for that to be maximized you need to sacrifice weight.. I think..
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - Guardian Odin - Sep. 17, 2008
(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
It's not that the lack of weight actually makes it spin more slowly. It's that the lighter weight disks are the wide ones, and they spin more slowly because the weight is set to the outside of the Beyblade. If you had a weight disk the size of Ten Heavy, but it was the weight of Ten Wide, it would allow a higher RPM than Ten Heavy.
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - Bey Brad - Sep. 17, 2008
(Sep. 17, 2008 5:19 PM)Anubis Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
It's not that the lack of weight actually makes it spin more slowly. It's that the lighter weight disks are the wide ones, and they spin more slowly because the weight is set to the outside of the Beyblade. If you had a weight disk the size of Ten Heavy, but it was the weight of Ten Wide, it would allow a higher RPM than Ten Heavy.
Fair enough, but these hypothetical WDs don't exist
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - ZenX - Sep. 18, 2008
(Sep. 17, 2008 5:19 PM)Anubis Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 8:55 PM)Bey Brad Wrote:(Sep. 16, 2008 6:56 PM)Gekiryu Wrote: Less weight is generally an increase in RPM though
You're not. Less weight generally decreases RPM.
It's not that the lack of weight actually makes it spin more slowly. It's that the lighter weight disks are the wide ones, and they spin more slowly because the weight is set to the outside of the Beyblade. If you had a weight disk the size of Ten Heavy, but it was the weight of Ten Wide, it would allow a higher RPM than Ten Heavy.
then 6 wide is better than 10 wide?
RE: Attempt at an upper attacker - TheGigsMeister - Sep. 18, 2008
No. 10-wide essentially does what 6-wide does much better.